UPDATE: Please take the time to read my followup post, Fifteen Minutes of Fame, for my thoughts on what happened after I posted the picture, why it happened — and most importantly, why I don’t blame Microsoft for their actions. Thanks!
The day started like any other day — get up, dink around for a bit, bus into work, and start working through the stack of jobs. Just shy of an hour after I got in, my manager came in and asked me to step into his office when I had a chance. Sure, no biggie, and I headed over as soon as I finished the job I was setting up.
“Okay, here’s the first question. Is this page,” and here he turned his monitor towards me, letting me see my “Even Microsoft wants G5s” post from last Thursday, “hosted on any Microsoft computer? Or is it on your own?”
“It’s on mine. Well, it’s on a hosted site that I pay for, but no, it’s not on anything of Microsoft’s.”
“Good. That means that as it’s your site on your own server, you have the right to say anything you want. Unfortunately, Microsoft has the right to decide that because of what you said, you’re no longer welcome on the Microsoft campus.”
And that simply, as of about 2pm today, I once again joined the ranks of the unemployed.
It seems that my post is seen by Microsoft Security as being a security violation. The picture itself might have been permissible, but because I also mentioned that I worked at the MSCopy print shop, and which building it was in, it pushed me over the line. Merely removing the post was also not an option — I offered, and my manager said that he had asked the same thing — but the only option afforded me was to collect any personal belongings I had at my workstation and be escorted out the door. They were at least kind enough to let me be escorted out by one of my co-workers, rather than sending security over to usher me out, but the end result is the same.
More frustrating for me is that, having read stories here and there on the ‘net about people who had for one reason or another lost their jobs due to something on their weblogs, I thought that I had done what I could to avoid that possibility. To my mind, it’s an innocuous post. The presence of Macs on the Microsoft campus isn’t a secret (for everything from graphic design work to the Mac Business Unit), and when I took the picture, I made sure to stand with my back to the building so that nothing other than the computers and the truck would be shown — no building features, no security measures, and no Microsoft personnel. However, it obviously wasn’t enough.
So, I’m unemployed. I am somewhat lucky in that I’m not technically unemployed — I am still on the roster for my temp agency, who has been very good to me so far (and hopefully will continue to be), but as their ability to place me anywhere does depend on the current job market, it’s not a foolproof guarantee of employment coming in quickly. I’ve put a call into them and let them know of the situation and that I’m available and willing for whatever can be found, so with any luck, they’ll be able to find a placement for me. However, it appears that it’s also time for me to start hitting the streets and shopping my resume around again.
Wish me luck.
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The list of reasons Microsoft sucks so badly just keeps growing. This is ridiculous. hug
oh god. Sorry
Omg. That’s just incredible. You must have stepped on somebody’s toes - nay broken somebody’s toes… It’s amazing what people and corporations get pissy over. Microsuck just needs a swift kick in the nads and I volunteer! No one sacks my friends! Unless it’s the other kind of sack - if you know what I mean…
Holy fucking shit, I think your month just got way worse than mine. I can’t believe they dismissed you for something so harmless. Can you really be fired for that? Are they terrified of letting people know where their shipping dock is?? What the fuck??!!
Needless to say I’m shocked that your post title really meant what it implied.
Let me know if you get in a financial bind - I know I’m not the only one who reads your blog who would scrape together a few extra bucks to make sure you have rent/food money. In fact, I’d venture to say that some folks with popular blogs would put up a tip jar in your stead, even if you don’t.
Also, I’m pretty good at editing documents and making them look pretty - I’ll help on your resume/cover letter if you want any assistance.
hugs from me as well.
Oh, Kiddo. I ache for you. And you thought it was only family and friends who were interested in your blog. Big Brother was not on your list of expected readers.
We love you.
I am stunned. So sorry that such a little thing lost you your job. I hope you find something else quickly and I appreciate your posting on this topic as it validates my own paranoia about what content I allow the world to view with my own blog.
But yikes! Hang in there…
That’s a load of crap to put it a nice way. I remember reading that post and saw no security issues. But that’s Microsoft for you. Just another good reason I use Linux. As someone already said, “the list of reasons Microsoft sucks so badly just keeps growing”.
This is just beyond the pale. I never thought they’d screw someone so close to me on the Kevin Bacon metric. I’m sorry, man. Let me know if there’s anything that I can do.
I’d say “that stinks”, but I’d be telling you something you already know. I offer my sympathies and my shared astonishment. On the plus side, you don’t have to worry what they think of your blog any more. You could certainly let them have it, if that’s what you feel like doing.
Ridiculous! Utterly insane! At the risk or repeating earlier responses, Microsoft couldn’t possibly suck any worse! They’re total idiots! I agree with Kirsten—if there’s anything I can do to help, let me know. I’m also quite adept at editing resumes and cover letters. (‘Sides, I owe you for all of your editing help on my various projects!) Lots of HUGS from me too!
We are sorry to hear of your job situation. Michael, we will remember you in our thoughts and prayers. Just remember you were looking for a job when you found the one you were at and with your talents, you will be able to find another one. Good luck and keep the faith.
First of all, I am so sorry!!!
Secondly, can your agency place you elsewhere or has Bill Gate’s actions blackballed you?
Thirdly - is there a free legal clinic in SEA? I am not sure what they did is kosher, but I do not know WA law.
I love you, kid. I agree this is an overreaction. The post was merely funny, not derogatory.
Bummer.
Love
Dad
Bummer! I agree that your posting was innocuous. You did mention a building but you did not give any useful details on the building. There is some paranoia about terrorists attacking the Microsoft campus. See — http://www.winnetmag.com/Article/ArticleID/24492/24492.html
Ultimately it’s their campus and I guess they get to set the rules. It would have been more just if they gave you a warning and/or they had a policy on these things. If you were an employee (not a contractor)then I am sure they wouldn’t be so cavalier.
I hope that official Microsoft bloggers such as Robert Scoble don’t dare mention buildings or post any photos. Good luck finding your next career opportunity.
Wow! I’m really sorry to hear the news Michael. What the hell is Microsoft trying to hid? There must be some latent issues inside that corporation that are f*@#ed up! Anyways, I would say, check out your legal rights if you feel that it is a good thing to do, but i’m not worried about you. The universe is tilting you in a different direction and you are fully capable of sliding away toward something new and exciting!
Unfortunately, it is well known in other shops that are more code-centric that yes, MS is terrified of everything. Paranoid, no. You can’t be paranoid enough when they really are out to get you. And everyone is out to get Microsoft.
However, as a former contractor, I can sympathize and even empathize. I doubt I could get hired @ MS again if I wanted to.
Give me a call on my cell, and send me your resume to my work email. I’ll see what I can do.
Btw, as an offhand thought. Dont’ forget this — you posted last year about the National Novel Writing Month — NOVEMBER. It’s time to try again, and this time, I’m challenging you to write more than I do. :*-D
You better watch out, Uncle Pervy. I’m all set to go for NaNoWriMo this year…
Screw them Michael, I wish you best of luck in the job hunt. I agreed with Hope, you should check out your options to take legal action against them.
Jess
Oh man….What can I say, I’m so sorry. When I saw the post I was worried a bit, I also work for a large Corp. (Now I won’t even say the name, but it starts with an X) and my boss made it clear to me that I was not allowed to take any pictures in or around the building without permission. I did ask one day and I did take pictures but they “reviewed” the shots before I left.(digital camera). One of the reasons I hate working for large Corps.(they suck)
But Michael all is not lost. The very large X that I work for is looking for a Docu-tech operator. call me……TONIGHT
I’ll be home between 4-8 pm. and E-Mail me your resume.
Good luck
My sympathies and congratulations. That blows some pretty big chunks.
Michael, this is beyond asinine. If you lived out here on the east coast I would help ya find something. While I am a security geek, and I can understand their position, it does not merit the punishment. I would have taken you aside given you a warning … maybe beat ya with the rubber hose… but fire you? Thats just bullshit.
Whats next? Are they going to fire people for putting their building number on their business cards? Feh!
holy cow, michael! i can’t believe this. it was such an innocent post. i admire your restraint in discussing your former employers. i likely would have been a little less generous.
like the other offers, if there is anything you need please let us know.
this is stunning.
Wow! Amazingly sad
Wow. This really enhances my perception that Microsoft is utterly evil.
Geez. Unbelievable. I’m new to blogging, and I had no idea that this could happen. I guess I’m glad I know how. Sorry, dude.
Sweet Jesus! I’ll post this to my blog (hell with them - I’m on a Linux box anyways). You should see what the press thinks of this one, unless it conflicts with your employment agreement. Make a heck of a news byline for someone….
I’m standing behind you on this one.
Karl Windows - a colorful clown suit for DOS!
Oh my God - that’s horrible! I’ve been fired from a job too because of what I’ve blogged. I feel your pain and hope you can find another employment opportunity soon.
that is utterly asinine. if they fired you for “security” reasons, then wouldnt they have wanted you to delete the post? I mean, who didnt have their bowl of logic that morning? They say its a security violation but they’re content with letting you keep it posted up. That doesnt exactly compute. I hope you find a new job quickly. Its horrible to be dealt such an unfair blow like that.
I just want to say, that I blogged some pretty serious secrets about the project I was working on four years ago, and all I got was (three years ago, when the project was released) a lawyer calling me up and saying “please remove all references in your posts to the product name or company name”. In retrospect, not too smart of me to blog all that, but I worked for NAI (the third largest software manufacturer in the world) and they were pretty damn cool with it. Didn’t even ask me to remove the posts or anything, just politely asked me to rename any reference to the product name.
Maybe because this was 4 years ago, and maybe because blogging wasn’t taken as seriously then. I know for sure I wouldn’t have blogged what I did before, now.
Anyways, I just wanted to say that that sucks, dude. But not every company handles it as draconian as MS. Methinks this is a PR disaster waiting to happen.
I feel for you. I came thisclose to losing my job because of what I wrote on my site. Now, I know it’s being closely monitored and I feel limited in what I write.
The funny thing is, I never really wrote about anything that violated any confidentiality policies. I was also very careful about Google (and other search engines) not showing my site when people ran searches on the name of my employer, the city, and my profession. Only other bloggers knew about my site…and one of them blew the whistle. Just for spite.
I urge everyone to use extreme caution with blogging. Real names? No way. Specific job and employer mentioned? Never. Not after knowing what I know.
Good luck on future employment. Things will work out. They always seem to for me, anyway. I can’t imagine that there’s anyone more luckless than myself…so you should make out fine.
I got axed in 2001 by my company for something frivilous like this. It sounds like maybe they were just looking for reasons to trim some fat and used this as an excuse to give you the boot. That is what my company did to me over something totally insignifigant.
Hope you are back gainfully employed in the not to distant future.
Rob Nance Austin, TX
Greetings from a small village in northern Thailand sixty miles from the Burmese border. My wife and I wish you well. I must say that the equanimity with which you related the account of your dismissal is remarkable. I suspect MS has lost a valuable employee. Good luck to you.
Sorry to hear about the job - I guess no matter how big Microsoft gets, they’ll always be touchy about some things. I suppose after all the years, they’d just like a change from all the blue screens for a while - which we can’t really blame them for
Best of luck finding a new job… I would make a donation, if I hadn’t also recently become unemployed! Unfortunately MY unemployment doesn’t have an interesting story to it.
regards, digitalfire http://www.digitalfire.co.za
I’m amazed that something as innocuous as that post could get someone fired!! Actually, its just your word that the photo has been taken inside the Microsoft campus. Without any external features visible that could link the photo to Microsoft, it could well have been a truck delivering a whole load of G5s to my very old and rich aunt who has a peculiar G5 fetish! By dismissing you, MS has just openly accepted that it REALLY IS a photo of inside the MS campus!! How silly and incredulously naive of them!! On the other hand though, with Microsoft, nothing amazes me anymore!
MS has bulldozed its way into a sureshot PR disaster!!
Wishing you luck for your future employment plans.
Sorry to hear you got canned for the image, Michael. Good luck finding your next job!
Bryan Editor TMO
I hate Microsoft. What an utterly useless software company.
Dit is gewoon belachelijk !!!!!!!! This is dutch for : This is completely utterlous ridiculous !!! Maybe smart to write to Steve Jobs for an job opening ?? Good luck and hope you wil find a new job ! Wouter Minderhoud
has this been submitted to Slashdot yet?
Someone please do it.
picked up on your story via a link truly absurd over reaction - my heart goes out to you. best of luck with the job search mate.
Not to be cold hearted, but you should be careful of “blogs”. I cant figure out why people write in these things, its like a public diary without a lock; it can be viewed as unprofessional. I can understand why Microsoft fired you; they view your behavior as unprofessional. Like it or not, most corporate entities are going to view behavior this way. My view of working for a big company is to think of yourself as a mercenary, or hit-man for the company: act professional all the time, and keep your personal life completely segregated in every way: maintain complete confidentiality and discretion. If you don’t, you will get “wacked” (sorry for the mafiaesque jargon, just watched the Sopranos). The responsible person would just chalk it up as experience; the hard lessons are always the best.
Crap crap crap. Total unbelievable crap. This just shows how worried Microsoft really is. Like Windows XP users might see Microsoft’s 10 G5s and suddenly switch to MacOS. This is one of the reasons I’m scared to make a blog, or even own a personal website. No matter what I put up there, it could be used against me by my employer. That is crap, especially if it was something as tame as what was posted here.
To me, the singular irony in this case is that you’ve been sacked for a “security violation” - this from the company that has inflicted hundreds of security violations on tens of millions of computers by releasing software that makes Swiss cheese look more solid than a brick - and to say that is an insult to Swiss cheese.
My suggestion to Microsoft - if you’re so serious about security, why not deal with it where it counts - in your software? All of this nonsense about firing someone for revealing the building they work in as a “security violation” is nothing more than a distraction from the very serious task you have in front of you - cleaning up after all of the loose ends you left in Windows NT, 2000 and XP.
You didn’t want to work for them anyway did you
J
If Apple is smart, which I believ ethey are, they would hire you……
give us a call for a job. we like your work.
This also happened to Gregg Easterbrook of ESPN, Atlantic Monthly, and the New Republic. He got fired from ESPN for badmouthing Disney on the New Republic’s blog site.
Go figure. sigh
sorry to hear this mate, maybe [hopefully] you’ll be working for Apple sometime in the future… =)
I do not believe that Microsoft could ever buy Macs. Apple has sent these computers to the Microsoft Campus as a clever publicity act. There is nothing Microsoft could ever learn from the guys at Apple. Of course, these machines might not be intented for copying the stuff from Apple, but might be for the most important people who just can’t afford to have the Windows crashing on them… but I thought that they were mostly using Linux in those cases.
I am sure you will find a new job with a better moral background, a job that you can tell proudly to your grandchildren.
I would like to propose a toast to the latest Apple martyr.
Three cheers for [what was your name again?]!!!
Current Borg employee here…
I feel for you man, I really do. This is why I blog under a pseudo and avoid talk of work whenever possible. If I do mention work, I don’t use their actual company name, just to make it slightly more unlikely that it can be found via a search engine. Oh, and I never blog from work.
I wonder if the fact that you were a contractor might also have contributed to this. Perhaps a FT might have survived with a warning…
Sorry Bro, It looks it looks like Big brother is comming and not in the form of government, but Microsoft
Sounds like you have a case of wrongful termination on the basis of the following. That fact that Mac users are notoriously avid supporters of the platform, your personal expression should be expected by Microsoft management. Your actions are not unexpected.
I think if you get yourself a lawyer you can win a claim against wrongful termination.
Hi!
Just want to say you were also mentioned in slashdot.org ;)s
I smell a lawsuit. Take em to the fucking cleaners.
Man, that is just sad and weak. I feel for you and wish you luck.
Hey man, I’m really sorry to hear this.
I wonder if anyone at Micro$oft thought to do a cost/benefit analysis of the impact on their security of just blowing off this non-issue versus over reacting, firing the guy and bringing down even more fear, loathing and outright hatred upon themselves when the story hit the press? Maybe if they didn’t act like this in the first place, perhaps security on the Micro$oft Campus wouldn’t be such an issue.
Dude! Totally send your qualifications to Apple and say, “This is why Microsoft fired me! Do you have any job openings available?” Apple probably has more of a sense of humor, especially about these sorts of things, than Microsoft. And, besides it never hurts to try. Good luck!
The posts about this being no different if it had occured at virtually any company are spot on. If this same scene had taken place at One Infinite Loop, the results would have been identical.
This guy obviously doesn’t have a clue, based on his blog. Further, those who are using this to bash Microsoft (an often worthy target) don’t have a clue either. This guy will be asking, “would you like fries with that,” in his next job, as Burger King is likely the only remaining source of employment for a moron of this magnitude.
Thats really bad news mate. Microsoft have just proved once again, and in a very public way, how much they suck. I wish you luck in finding a better employer.
good luck daddyo.
in reading about your mishap, I’ll surely be more careful in my posts.
or should I be? what the hell.
First off, sorry you lost your job over this; sux. However, for those saying watch what you blog, I give the big middle finger! In other words what they’re saying is, watch what you say, cuz someone might do something bad to you; i.e., you have no free speech.
Last time I looked, we live in America, home to the brave, free speech, and many tax skating corporate offices located in the Bahamas. The last thing you should be doing is censoring yourself every second of every day. Am I saying don’t employ common sense? No, not at all. When the entry was posted, you took good measure to make sure none of the surrounding buildings or outright anything m$ was visible. For all we know, that truck could have existed somewhere else in the universe and the only thing connecting it with the m$ campus was your words.
Your personal life - including blogging - is (for now) totally your own thing and completely separate from m$ the uber-company. I’m sure this story will get more legs and someone will offer you a better position, or something good will come around regardless. Or maybe, even as some people said, someone at Apple will glance over.
Anyway, good luck.
Things could have changed, but when I worked at Microsoft a few years back I remember there being a policy banning employees from taking pictures inside MS buildings with out permission. It is common knowledge that MS makes software for the mac so it shouldn’t be a big suprise that they took delivery of some macs.
Sucks to hear of the unemployment. No loss really though… it was only Microsoft. It’s not like they’re an innovative company anyhow. Nothing to show for, except for a subpar OS. You’ll find another job, one where you don’t have to work for the enemy.
Slightly off-topic, but a good friend of mine (we’ll just call him JRD) who used to live near me in California moved to Washington (yes, the state, not the capital) to work for Macro$haft. The funny thing is that he seems to have turned on his friends. It’s as though he has become some sort of secret service agent or some clandestine crap like that. I think that the Macro$haft lifestyle has ruined him. Poor sap!
-he who stacks pork
So sad, so sad, so sad. It is such a stupid measure to take. They are clearly shooting themselves in the big Corprate MS foot for doing this. I wish you the best of luck, If you have any thoughts about moving to the French Riviera, answer this posting, I can probably find you a job over here. But I agree with several other posters here, if Apple wishes to get some seriously good publicity, they should hire you immediately. The very best of luck! We are keeping our fingers crossed for you!
Sincerely,
Svinto
Perhaps John Doe (from a post above) needs to think about what he’s saying before he ends up looking like a Moron (too late in this case). Think about this John Doe (Moron), perhaps the answer is to have employees of corporations of this type/magnitude to sign agreements not to take photos in and/or around the work place/parking lot/loading bay, etc…
Is this really necessary? Obviously John Doe (Moron). There is nothing wrong with the photograph in question. It does not violate any security issues what so ever. What does it show? Nothing. The description of the photo given does not give anything away either. It simply says they are being delivered to Microsoft. Embarrasing for MS, but nothing to fire someone over.
Think before you post John Doe (Moron). Thanks a lot, dumb ass.
Well maybe our DooM 3 project will cheer you up! http://doomforcolumbine.com
Billgoat Gates and his mountain of cash are subject to jibes, here and there, so check it out okay? Thanks for those nice G5 textures for the M$ levels!!!
I can really sympathize with you over this situation. I too was fired due to inappropriate blogging that wasn’t done with malice, but simply a lack of forethought. But the good news is that I was forced to leave a job I hate, and got one that I love. It will all work out, and you will always have the awesome story of the time you were fired for outing Microsoft’s love for macs. Good luck.
I feel for you. The job market is tough these days and employers seem able to do pretty much anything they want, for any reason. You may have had some recourse as an employee but as a temp…
I was laid off from another big company (though not quite as big as Microsoft—but then, who is) when I returned from disability from treatment for breast cancer. Apparently, I increased their premiums or something. With no insurance and no money, I can’t even afford follow-up to make sure it’s still gone. People have become merely a commodity, it seems. Very sad.
I’ve been looking for another job for almost a year. Sure hope you have better luck than I’ve been having! (I did have two interviews in the last week so am keeping my fingers crossed.)
As popular as this blog appears to be, maybe you can turn it into a money-making venture. At least until you find another gig. Good luck to you!
Well, this is yet ANOTHER problem with America. I love this country, don’t get me wrong. But capitalizm and corperate greed is becoming such a huge problem. With the economy the way it is, every corperation that was already greedy has gotten worse and doesn’t seem to really give a @%#@$ about their customers. I’m a small business owner (ISP and onsite work)and in the course of the past 3 years I’ve had to break long term relationships with alot of companies we dealt with and more on the way. Things such as my notebook supplier (Chembook) sent me a faulty notebook and refused to fix/resolve the problem so I had to pay for the hardware to repair a 4 month old notebook. What made it worse is, it was the motherboard requiring a $700 part.
My advise to everyone right now is do as little dealings as possible with “public” companies. If they are on the stock market, their concern is the bottom line. NOT taking care of their customers. Small businesses might be a bit more expensive but you can just about bet you’re going to get taken care of and not just have your wallet thinned out.
this really does suck. microsoft should really be aware of the bad press this is causing them. screw microsoft. screw their lousy software.
Oh boy. Any press is good press, eh? Not really.
Let’s face facts here: You are a high school graduate with no college degree (or attendance as far as I can tell from your resume), with what seems to be very limited job experience as well. You were a temp contract employee for a large corporation, and you took pictures inside that corporation’s campus. It doesn’t matter at all that the large corporation in this case is Microsoft, and it doesn’t matter whatsoever that Apple is involved.
The fact that people are using this as an excuse to bash Microsoft is just another example of the Apple community embarrassing itself with its oft-blinded hatred of Microsoft or anything related thereto. And, since people will automatically respond to what I’ve just written with ignorant “M$ Lover!!” statements, I think I should mention that I own a Power Mac G5.
Sorry, pal, that you got fired. It’s always a bad thing. But, in this case, it is understandable. I’m sure you’ll get some donations, which is good for you since you’ll need to pay bills, but I honestly don’t think they’re deserved. Due to the names involved in this firing, you’re getting tons of press in the Mac community (a community that tends to be both willing to help each other and willing to do anything, it seems, if they think it hurts Microsoft), and you’ll no doubt receive money and possibly a new job because of this. That’s unfortunate for everyone out there with money trouble or job trouble who are qualified and understand how large companies work, but who do not have weblogs and/or get fired for things like this.
I’ll leave you with this: you’re really, really lucky. Ten years ago, you would simply be SOL. No questions asked. But now you’re going to get help. Help you really don’t deserve. I just hope you learn a valuable lesson and help others when the opportunity arises.
Now the whole world knows. Congratulations Microsoft! You’d think that companies would learn that whenever they do something stupid like this, they are just BEGGING to get lots of publicity. Essentially, Microsoft fired you because they don’t want their purchase of G5s to be known. However, in doing so, they’ve attracted more attention to the issue than could possibly have been gotten otherwise. Glad I don’t work for Microsoft. They’re absolute bastards in so many ways.
As much as I disagree with what has happened to you, Michael, I am very suprised with the comments I have read here and responses on other blogger-websites. I have read posts of people that are afraid to tell the name of the company they work for, and seen comments like “If in doubt, don’t post”, “Always be careful when posting”. That is utterly ridiculous! Are you scared to do anything that makes your boss think you’re anything else than a mindless drone? Are you not allowed to live your own life? From my (european) point of view this shows the hypocrisy of Amercia when it comes to their favorite right: FREEDOM.
This is the letter I sent to Microshifty.
Dear sir madam,
I read on the internet that you’ve fired this poor chap who blogged about the presence of Macintosh G5 computers on the Microsoft premises.
Here’s the
Isn’t it a bit rigorous to fire him over such a trifle matter? Because of this I bought a Macintosh today and this will be the last E-mail using a Microsoft product to send it. As we speak I am downloading another program to replace this one. As from today I will make every effort to replace any Microsoft program on any computer in my company for concurring company’s software, including the OS’es. This means I will switch to Linux and shout it of the rooftops too. I am considering writing something about it in my own column on my own site (now a Unix system running apache) and it will certainly not be pleasant for you. That is the consequence for your actions. I also crossposted references to the poor man’s blog on numerous forums throughout the world. I dare you to respond!
Mr. Leendert V** G****** III, CEO VG****.NL WebDesign, The Netherlands
Does this mean there’s an opening at Microsoft now?
Wow, it’s amazing how corporate culture behaves. Good luck, man… Big D slipped you a lil somethin in your PayPal account.
CMON FOLKS, chip in a little (or more if you got too much)!