We need pink! Manly pink!
Humor, Weblogs, Website May 11th, 2004 |Anybody want to redesign my site for me?
It’s gonna need pink. Lots of pink. And big, hard, nippleless breasts.
What in the world am I babbling about? Well, quite simply, I think that Shelley has a good point about some aspects of the Blogger redesign…
Speaking of looks, if you read Phil’s comments, you’ll see I was not happy about Zeldman’s Ms. Moto and Mr. Moto templates. The one for Mr. Moto shows a classic gray, very professional looking weblog with a photo of a building in one of the posts. However, the one for Ms. Moto is all in purple/pinks, and shows a photo of a Barbie doll in the example post.
What is the message from these templates? That men have professional looking sites, while women favor pink and dolls? I am surprised at an experienced man like Zeldman perpetuating this type of stereotype. As Mark Pilgrim said in Phil’s post, yes men and women may both like pink sites. I don’t have a problem with pink; it was the gender association (not to mention the doll–was that an accident?) that grabbed me. There were other templates that also featured pink, or rose, but none of them made an association with a gender through the name. No big deal you say? By itself, no. But after three years of girlism and baring breasts as fund raisers, not to mention being told time and again how ladies are supposed to act in this environment, and how women webloggers only write about home while men write about politics and tech–I am weary of how much weblogging promotes stereotypes. I stopped pointing out how woman don’t seem to get the same notice as men in weblogging when it comes to writing in order not to perpetuate a stereotype; the least others can do is not make associations between female bloggers and Barbie dolls. Mark “The Pink” Pilgrim has hinted that he’ll probably do a redesign, perhaps based on pink and dolls. Dolls with big, hard nippleless breasts. If so, and I see several men sporting the new Ms. Moto look, I will be less inclined to be critical. So, guys show me that Ms. Moto is genderless and protect Zeldman’s honor at the same time. If you have Blogger, pick that template, but don’t forget to add in a doll or two. If not, then do something comparable in your own toolset. Then I’ll know pink and dolls aren’t just ‘girly’ things, they’re also for manly mans. We’ll have a contest. Maybe Mark and Zeldman will judge.
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p>I am so up for this. However, I’m not really that much of a designer (especially when it comes to using graphics or color), and I just dealt with the frustration of a mere tweak of this design, and I’m not terribly sure I want to start from scratch again.
So, a challenge.
If anyone out there is crazy enough to give me a design to use, I’ll use it. In fact, if I even get people telling me that they’ll work on it, I’ll go down to the local Hot Topic, blow a little money, and then send the prospective designers pictures of me to incorporate in the design (even though I’m conspicuously missing the big, hard nippleless breasts) in my 14-eye Doc Marten boots, black Utilikilt, and each of the following three shirts: the pink skull, “Pink is the new black”, and “Tough guys wear pink”.
Anybody up to this? Should anyone actually want to tackle this, I only have a few simple requests:
- I’d like to keep the basic structure I have set up right now: two columns, main content on the left, sidebar on the right, main content appearing first in the HTML, post metadata just underneath the title, etc.
- Take a look at my current source code and CSS to see how I’ve been doing things so far — while that shouldn’t limit what you come up with, it’ll at least give you a good idea of how I think when I piece things together.
- Update: Now that new designs have started to appear, here’s my original stylesheet: styles-default.css.
And really, that’s about it. I’m up for just about anything, and I’ll gladly work with someone to make sure that their ideas and design drop in here without too many issues.
Unfortunately, there’s not a lot I can offer for compensation, other than the general fun of doing it. If you come up with something that might work as repayment, though (aside from the obligatory “Design by…” link on the page), feel free to suggest it, and we’ll see what can be worked out.
iTunes: “Got Me Wrong” by Alice in Chains from the album Sap (1992, 4:12).
[See also: Manly Pink: The photos | Manly Pink #1 | Irony, copyright, and site design | Welcome back WaSP | Just an idea ]
12 Responses to “We need pink! Manly pink!”
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May 11th, 2004 at 11:29 am
Beware - you’re probably in for another comment sp/am storm. P/ink is one of the words they key on. I learned that one the hard way when I linked to an article about p/ink being the new hip color for men’s clothes.
May 11th, 2004 at 12:37 pm
You’ll forgive me if I pass on this. Don’t much care for pink. In clothing or in websites.
And before anybody call me sexist for not liking pink. I’ll point out that I don’t like blue or yellow or green and any number of colors. All of my clothing is Black, White or Gray. My house is Black, White and Gray. Yes its a sick life, but it’s my sick life and I like it very much thank you. And just to confuse everybody I shoot Color photographes but not Black and White. Go figure…
May 11th, 2004 at 2:01 pm
Yay! Pink! Told you pink is good!
May 11th, 2004 at 5:12 pm
You know, pink does have a certain edginess about it.
May 11th, 2004 at 9:03 pm
Eh, what the heck. I spent a few minutes and put a design together that just changes the CSS and uses your current markup. Looks similar (but not exactly the same) in IE and Moz. Very lightweight in graphics and CSS. If you’d be willing to put a class “meta” on the first paragraph after the h3 in the post and h4 in the comments, I can style that too, just didn’t think it really warranted a contextual selector that IE wouldn’t understand. Without further ado, the CSS.
May 11th, 2004 at 10:31 pm
Rock on — thanks Matt! I like the look of that (admittedly, more than I thought I might when I tossed this post up…I must admit that pink generally isn’t part of my usual color scheme).
I’ve actually swapped out my stylesheets here to put yours in, I’m just waiting for TypePad to realize that the change has been made (and, since that change should happen as soon as I hit the button, I’ve filed a trouble ticket also). I’ll go ahead and poke around and add that “meta” class too — might as well, and it certainly can’t hurt.
Now off to tweak templates and see if I can’t beat that stylesheet into appearing…
May 12th, 2004 at 5:38 am
AAAAAAAaaa
My eyes, my eyes….I’m blinded.
I’m going to have to stop reading this blog before coffee. There are too many things I can’t handle at 5am.
May 12th, 2004 at 5:51 am
here, my version (and here’s the head graphic), be warned, it’s VERY pink, not just pink, but girly baby candy pink! hehe ^^;; I would have been more creative but I must admit that I’m confused by your css ^^;;
May 12th, 2004 at 8:59 am
seems like I fucked up the stylesheet T_T, it was fine in firefox but not in IE, and I gave up trying to work it out, I don’t really know what’s wrong @_@, sorry for submitting such a cripple code ^^;;
ran
May 12th, 2004 at 9:42 am
Rock on — I’ve got to get moving a little faster today (I’ve got some t-shirts to buy), but I’ll take a look at your stylesheet tonight after I’m home from work. Thanks!
May 15th, 2004 at 9:03 pm
Manly Pink: The photos
I got my friend Jessica to wander around with me today and play photographer so that I could fulfill my earlier promise of posing in pink t-shirts, kilt, and boots in return for assistance with the redesign of my website. So, without further ado: me in…
September 25th, 2004 at 8:30 am
Pink
I woke in the wee hours suffering from a certain burning and pink pee. So I did the logical thing - drowned my sorrows in cranberry juice. It’s supposed to be good for stuff like that. Must liquid later and a few clots, it stopped burning and I went b…