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Trek in the 2100’s?

Yesterday I pointed to this article about Star Trek XI. According to the article, this will be a prequel movie not directly associated with any of the existing shows, story lines — or casts.

What we know so far you could pretty much write on the back of a comm badge but it breaks down to this: Picard and the gang will not be involved, it’s going to be a prequel film set before Kirk, the Enterprise TV crew will (thankfully) not be involved.

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“We’re going 160-odd years before Kirk is born. It’s an earlier time, and I think it would be really refreshing to feel something in the course of telling this tale, instead of being wowed by special effects, or presenting another crew in jeopardy where, in the end, the captain does something brilliant, and all’s right with the world. By the end of this story, everyone isn’t fine. I can safely say as a storyteller with certain standards… my intention is literally as a writer, as a storyteller, as a filmmaker, to go boldly where no one has gone before.”

This got me thinking about the timeline of the Trek universe. I remembered that Enterprise was set roughly 80 or so years before classic Trek — so this new movie will be going another 80 years before that? Considering that Enterprise is set in the era immediately preceding the formation of the Federation of Planets, what was going on in the Trek universe during the time period of this new movie?

According to Memory Alpha’s timeline, Classic Trek is set in the 23rd century, between 2264 and 2269.

Enterprise takes place in the 22nd Century, between 2151 and roughly 2155 (I’m assuming that last date, given the four-year run of Enterprise).

This actually puts Enterprise roughly 110 years before Classic Trek, not 80 — so the new film should take place roughly fifty years prior to that, right around the early 2100s.

So what do we have in the established Trek universe in the 2100s that might factor in to the new movie?

I haven’t snagged character births or contact between races that Earth wouldn’t have come into contact with yet in what I’ve listed above. Of those listed events, the only one that seems even remotely important enough that it might make an appearance in the new film is the establishment of the Martian colonies, but I don’t really expect that to show up.

First Contact with the Vulcans was in 2063, so having the Vulcans involved is a possibility — unfortunately, if they keep continuity with Enterprise, they’ll be the uppity, meddling Vulcans of Enterprise rather than the stoic, respectable members of the Federation that we’re more familiar with.

Neither the Klingons nor the Romulans had been encountered yet, so unless there’s some even more serious meddling with the established universe coming up, we shouldn’t be seeing either of them in the film.

Essentially, it appears that we have a fairly open slate for this one. I just hope that writer Erik Jendresen isn’t just mouthing empty platitudes when he says this

“I can certainly say that the story concept, the basic idea of this thing, is pretty damn big,” says Jendresen. “It’s a noble enterprise, pun intended. When I heard the notion, I realized that the people I was talking to were serious, and genuinely dedicated. I started to really think about it, and, ultimately to develop a story. And it’s a pretty good one.

Rumor mills — warp seven — engage!

Update: On a second reading — because sometimes I’m dumb, and one reading isn’t enough — I realized that I may have goofed up the dates by about three decades. I’d thought that the article said that they were going “160 years before Kirk’s time”, so I counted backwards from the beginning of the original series. However, I just realized that the article actually says “160-odd years before Kirk is born”.

Kirk was born in 2233, so that puts the approximate time period of the new film at around 2073 or so — not even 70 years from the present day. This still puts it post-First Contact with the Vulcans, but now we’re a good thirty years away from colonizing Mars.

Again looking at the timeline, events in the 2070’s that might (but might not) factor into the film:

Again, just because these events have been established as part of the Trek universe, there’s no guarantee that they will be seen or referenced in the upcoming film — and, as noted above in regards to the Post-atomic horror seeming to be inconsistent with the TNG and ENT versions of Trek history, it’s entirely possible that some events may be flat-out contradicted once the film comes out.

Still, it’s fun to look at what’s “known” at this point, and to try to put some context to the time period the next film is likely to be in.

Update: Neuvo pointed out that there’s been an update to the original article about the film, and the writer has stated that he goofed when he gave the ~160 year date.

Erik Jendresen contacted SyFy Portal after the story published to say that he misspoke when giving the 160-year figure in the above story. He said that was not an accurate number.

Now the article gives a rough date of ~80 years before Kirk — which puts it right around the early 2150’s, or right about the same time as the first season of Enterprise. This opens up possibilities for Klingons, Andorians, and (though I hope not) Suliban and other species encountered during Enterprise’s first year(s).

That’s far too many potential options for me to do another little timeline-rundown, so I’ll just go back to keeping my fingers crossed that a new writer not previously affiliated with the Trek franchise can breathe some new life into the series.

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  1. Yep, I hope they dont botch it up… my Star Trek Movie boxset can’t take anymore heartache

  2. The very detailed Timelines of HIstory version of all this is encased in plexiglass at the Star Trek Experience at the Las Vegas Hilton. You can follow the time line as you walk along before you get on the ride.

    The interesting back story here is Hollywood’s search for a new profitable franchise. George Lucas is cooked, the Bond films are limping along, and those Harry Potter kids aren’t going to be kids much longer.

  3. This is a beautiful piece of research that you have done here. I enjoyed reading this immensely. Who says blogs are nothing more than stories about what people ate for lunch?

  4. daniel said

    First of all (although I haven’t seen more than two episodes of “enterprise”) shouldn’t the ships from that era the 2150’s look entirely different than the enterprise. I thought the ships of that era had a bubble shaped hull instead of a saucer section. They still had the warp nacelles (not very impressive looking) but a bubble shaped hull not saucer. Daedalus class vessels I think? I think the new movie should reflect that design of that vessel if they want to be true to form for that era. Also, even though none of the next generation trek characters can be involved I think they could include at least one of the characters from the next generation cast and I’m thinking only one person: John De lancie. “Q” Q would definately still exist in this era and long before actually. I think they should have included Q long ago in the next generation trek films. I think ( and hopefully the new writer will somehow read this) that the new movie invovle a newly minted ship fresh out of spacedock with a new crew and upon their first mission they encounter Q (which is Q’s first encounter with humanity in well over 300) According to the plot this will be Q’s first glimpse of humanity since he visited the poor pathetic human race in the 1700’s. This new crew should feature an all human crew roster (with the exception of a vulcan observer in following with the “enterprise” plot) who will encounter their first contact with a alien race that will show them far more than they planned to see or fathom. A bizarre twist could have Q show them the future of the federation leading up to them being forced to fight in the epic last battle of the dominion war only to be snatched away from eminent disaster to be brought back to their humble start in their own time leaving a confused crew but battle worn and ready for future challenges. Also a cool plot twist would be to have one of the crew members be an ancestor to one of the original series crew. Perhaps Dr. Mccoy’s great grandfather or something. Maybe as a small part in the movie. Perhaps something like the captain bumps in to a “lowly” crewman at the end of the movie and he asks who he is and he says “Joseph McCoy or something” Trek fans will pick up on the implecation. Anyway those are just some ideas. Daniel

  5. Daniel said

    As an after thought I think maybe the plot I suggested above could include some (or all) of the cast members from Deep Space Nine. Since the Defiant was a major player in the final battle of the Dominion war there could be a part of the plot where (halfway through the movie) the defiant crew notices a (way out of date) vessel that popped up amongst the armada of ships heading to Cardasia and the Defiant crew helps safeguard this ship during the battle. This would stave off the “technical fans” objections of how a 220 something year old vessel could have held their own during this encounter. In fact this old vessel could be named the “defiant” a predecessor much like “enterprise” was a predecessor to Picard’s enterprise. Hmmm just something to think about

  6. Hello,

    I love this site! Frankly, I know Erik Jendresen is a fantastic writer! He’s perfect for this! I just want to have an opportunity to audition for the film. I’ll play any part and I’m not a famous actor, but I do have some theater classes under my belt.

    I hope Erik Jendresen considers introducing the Metron into the script. I would love to play a Metron scientist that impersonates a human scientist/marine because the Metron look very human and most likely observed humans well before 2267. Here’s more info on them:

    The Metrons are omnipotent beings and one of the dominant inhabitants of the Beta Quadrant in the fictional realm of Star Trek. The exact location of the Metron Consortium is NOT known. They made first contact with Starfleet in 2267 when mediating a dispute between the United Federation of Planets and the Gorn. The Metrons made their first appearance in the Star Trek: The Original Series episode Arena.

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